diff --git a/core/doctype/doctype/doctype.py b/core/doctype/doctype/doctype.py
index fce3f1124b..c6dbb1e0c4 100644
--- a/core/doctype/doctype/doctype.py
+++ b/core/doctype/doctype/doctype.py
@@ -177,7 +177,7 @@ class DocType:
 def validate_fields_for_doctype(doctype):
 	from webnotes.model.doctype import get
 	validate_fields(filter(lambda d: d.doctype=="DocField" and d.parent==doctype, 
-		get(doctype)))
+		get(doctype, cached=False)))
 
 def validate_fields(fields):
 	def check_illegal_characters(fieldname):
diff --git a/webnotes/model/doctype.py b/webnotes/model/doctype.py
index cbc8a36ad1..e8e034a122 100644
--- a/webnotes/model/doctype.py
+++ b/webnotes/model/doctype.py
@@ -42,11 +42,11 @@ import webnotes.model.doclist
 doctype_cache = {}
 docfield_types = None
 
-def get(doctype, processed=False):
+def get(doctype, processed=False, cached=True):
 	"""return doclist"""
-
-	doclist = from_cache(doctype, processed)
-	if doclist: return DocTypeDocList(doclist)
+	if cached:
+		doclist = from_cache(doctype, processed)
+		if doclist: return DocTypeDocList(doclist)
 	
 	load_docfield_types()